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		<title>By: #journchat LIVE Toronto Roundup &#171; Echo Communications</title>
		<link>http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/2009/07/where-have-all-the-references-gone.html/comment-page-1#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>#journchat LIVE Toronto Roundup &#171; Echo Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] group, we chose to show our support for a local initiative, @Kilos4Kids. Takeaway: The idea of self-promotion is a great one, but why not use a forum like #journchat to spread the news about a great cause [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anna Barcelos</title>
		<link>http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/2009/07/where-have-all-the-references-gone.html/comment-page-1#comment-2607</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Barcelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Beth! We talked about this topic in Philly, and I felt we shared similar perspectives about &quot;shameless self-promotion&quot; and how we probably should be doing it more but won&#039;t.

I will only share links that I think will be informative to others, whether RTs or my own posts.  My choices and goals for social networking were to build relationships, learn about the 2.0 world and implement a strategy here or there. I accomplished those goals although at times (as we talked about) it just felt too challenging talking about them let alone promoting them.

I couldn&#039;t stop thinking about Mack&#039;s comment about students either.  What impression are the newbies going to have if they aren&#039;t seeing or learning about and from social media experts and the value of social media in the marketing mix. We sure know colleges aren&#039;t up to speed with the topic!

As an earlier post said, if you&#039;re proud of something you did or have case studies, it should be perfectly fine to share them with others. I&#039;m sure you have tons of things that I think would bring value to others and should start posting them.  At the very least, your posts and insights are excellent. I learn so much from you! Keep them coming.
.-= Anna Barcelos&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/annabarcelos/Wggg/~3/iQ9M0DMYQSE/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Five Tweets to a Job (Five Tips For You)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Beth! We talked about this topic in Philly, and I felt we shared similar perspectives about &#8220;shameless self-promotion&#8221; and how we probably should be doing it more but won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I will only share links that I think will be informative to others, whether RTs or my own posts.  My choices and goals for social networking were to build relationships, learn about the 2.0 world and implement a strategy here or there. I accomplished those goals although at times (as we talked about) it just felt too challenging talking about them let alone promoting them.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t stop thinking about Mack&#8217;s comment about students either.  What impression are the newbies going to have if they aren&#8217;t seeing or learning about and from social media experts and the value of social media in the marketing mix. We sure know colleges aren&#8217;t up to speed with the topic!</p>
<p>As an earlier post said, if you&#8217;re proud of something you did or have case studies, it should be perfectly fine to share them with others. I&#8217;m sure you have tons of things that I think would bring value to others and should start posting them.  At the very least, your posts and insights are excellent. I learn so much from you! Keep them coming.<br />
.-= Anna Barcelos&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/annabarcelos/Wggg/~3/iQ9M0DMYQSE/" rel="nofollow">Five Tweets to a Job (Five Tips For You)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Harte</title>
		<link>http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/2009/07/where-have-all-the-references-gone.html/comment-page-1#comment-2592</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of the great comments and discussion here...I thought I might hit a nerve, but wasn’t sure how deep it was. 

@JayEhret, that’s a great idea! And I am already implementing a few Skype calls to get to know what folks are working on so I can add them to my referral list. 

@RichieEscovedo, yes, I’d like to see samples too. Not case studies. I want to get inside someone’s head and understand their thought process for solving a marketing/communications challenge. 

@StacyLukas, I have been wondering what people would think of my signature...but, it’s a subtle way to spread the word and I suggest others do the same. Like you, I tell people to connect all the time but I can’t refer their work if I don’t know it. ;-)

@TraciBrowne, I thought you knew what I did! ;-) Would you like to hear about MarketingProfs? LOL! 

@MackCollier, glad you said what I was really thinking! And that’s a great point about students just getting into the space...the same goes with those starting a career consulting (especially if they’re a laid off marketer!)

@DebraEllis, you’re translations might just be dead on so much so they had to be repeated! Heh. ;-)

@MarkDykeman, for me (and this is just a personal preference), I wouldn’t care if they walked me through a project that’s on their website or if they just spoke to me about a topic and how they solved the challenge. I know them, I just want to know what they are working on too.

@ChrisJones, thanks for point out this happens offline too. In fact, I just did this myself. I was at a speaking engagement and said I worked for MarketingProfs. Afterwards people said “What does MarketingProfs do? Do you have a card so I can check out your website?” People are naturally curious when you don’t turn them off by being “that guy.”

@KevinFenton, @MariaColacurcio, thanks for an interesting discussion. I think we do water it down a bit... Sure we know someone, but how well do we *really* know them? And what if we refer them and then we hear back they were weird or a jerk? Then we feel bad. But if they turn out to be wonderful, it’s great. What a balance to strike though. Kevin, thanks for the MarketingProfs referral...we appreciate it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of the great comments and discussion here&#8230;I thought I might hit a nerve, but wasn’t sure how deep it was. </p>
<p>@JayEhret, that’s a great idea! And I am already implementing a few Skype calls to get to know what folks are working on so I can add them to my referral list. </p>
<p>@RichieEscovedo, yes, I’d like to see samples too. Not case studies. I want to get inside someone’s head and understand their thought process for solving a marketing/communications challenge. </p>
<p>@StacyLukas, I have been wondering what people would think of my signature&#8230;but, it’s a subtle way to spread the word and I suggest others do the same. Like you, I tell people to connect all the time but I can’t refer their work if I don’t know it. <img src='http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@TraciBrowne, I thought you knew what I did! <img src='http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Would you like to hear about MarketingProfs? LOL! </p>
<p>@MackCollier, glad you said what I was really thinking! And that’s a great point about students just getting into the space&#8230;the same goes with those starting a career consulting (especially if they’re a laid off marketer!)</p>
<p>@DebraEllis, you’re translations might just be dead on so much so they had to be repeated! Heh. <img src='http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@MarkDykeman, for me (and this is just a personal preference), I wouldn’t care if they walked me through a project that’s on their website or if they just spoke to me about a topic and how they solved the challenge. I know them, I just want to know what they are working on too.</p>
<p>@ChrisJones, thanks for point out this happens offline too. In fact, I just did this myself. I was at a speaking engagement and said I worked for MarketingProfs. Afterwards people said “What does MarketingProfs do? Do you have a card so I can check out your website?” People are naturally curious when you don’t turn them off by being “that guy.”</p>
<p>@KevinFenton, @MariaColacurcio, thanks for an interesting discussion. I think we do water it down a bit&#8230; Sure we know someone, but how well do we *really* know them? And what if we refer them and then we hear back they were weird or a jerk? Then we feel bad. But if they turn out to be wonderful, it’s great. What a balance to strike though. Kevin, thanks for the MarketingProfs referral&#8230;we appreciate it!!</p>
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		<title>By: New Feature: Friday Link Love @ ProStylus: The Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/2009/07/where-have-all-the-references-gone.html/comment-page-1#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>New Feature: Friday Link Love @ ProStylus: The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] anyone off. That question was too big for me to tackle quickly. But it’s worth reading Beth’s post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] anyone off. That question was too big for me to tackle quickly. But it’s worth reading Beth’s post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fenton</title>
		<link>http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/2009/07/where-have-all-the-references-gone.html/comment-page-1#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My referrals probably start off watered down!  I think it does frame the referral differently and lets the person know they need to do some due diligence. But if I flip it and imagine someone asked about a copywriter and someone said that they follow me on twitter and that my web site might be worth a look, I&#039;d be pleased by that.
.-= Kevin Fenton&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://kevinfentonbiz.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/%E2%80%9Cwill-please-stop-shoveling-dirt-on-me%E2%80%9D-on-the-death-of-advertising/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Will you please stop shoveling dirt on me?” On the Death of Advertising&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My referrals probably start off watered down!  I think it does frame the referral differently and lets the person know they need to do some due diligence. But if I flip it and imagine someone asked about a copywriter and someone said that they follow me on twitter and that my web site might be worth a look, I&#8217;d be pleased by that.<br />
.-= Kevin Fenton&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://kevinfentonbiz.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/%E2%80%9Cwill-please-stop-shoveling-dirt-on-me%E2%80%9D-on-the-death-of-advertising/" rel="nofollow">“Will you please stop shoveling dirt on me?” On the Death of Advertising</a> =-.</p>
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