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	<title>Comments on: Don’t get caught up in transparent spin</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Needles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Beth.

I feel as though the question of spin in research really comes down to a basic, normative question:  Did you commission research to develop insights, or did you do so to support pre-determined insights?  And this is at the core of marketing-research ethics, in my book.

I think that when companies commission research to support pre-determined insights they (a.) have missed the point of research and (b.) are already 99% on the path to spinning those results.

Good dialogue.  

FYI -- I&#039;m going to do more with this topic on my blog -- where I&#039;m planning a future piece on how marketing research and customer insights are evolving in the Web 2.0 world.  Will keep you updated.

Also FYI --  We&#039;ve added The Harte of Marketing to our blogroll.  Like the dialogue on your site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Beth.</p>
<p>I feel as though the question of spin in research really comes down to a basic, normative question:  Did you commission research to develop insights, or did you do so to support pre-determined insights?  And this is at the core of marketing-research ethics, in my book.</p>
<p>I think that when companies commission research to support pre-determined insights they (a.) have missed the point of research and (b.) are already 99% on the path to spinning those results.</p>
<p>Good dialogue.  </p>
<p>FYI &#8212; I&#8217;m going to do more with this topic on my blog &#8212; where I&#8217;m planning a future piece on how marketing research and customer insights are evolving in the Web 2.0 world.  Will keep you updated.</p>
<p>Also FYI &#8212;  We&#8217;ve added The Harte of Marketing to our blogroll.  Like the dialogue on your site!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Harte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@YatPundit, I was being nice...hoping to give them a chance to explain. But they never stopped by. 

@ShannonPaul, thank you ma&#039;am! :) My BS meter almost made me fall of the chair. I can&#039;t believe an agency would pull this stunt...okay, well, I can. But still. 

@MarcMeyer, mind altering chemicals or someone was spinning around in an office chair for a little too long. ;-) Glad you are trying to educate your co-workers, I hope they are listening. 

@JamesHelms, thanks! I have heard the same thing. Some marketers know the buzz word, but don&#039;t really know what it means. Surveys like Cones do not help. Again, thought they&#039;d be &quot;listening,&quot; and perhaps respond, but no dice. 

Cone needs to read the posts on when to fire your SM Consultant! Amber Naslund&#039;s post (http://tinyurl.com/3jp6s8) and Alex Hillman&#039;s (http://tinyurl.com/3lwele)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@YatPundit, I was being nice&#8230;hoping to give them a chance to explain. But they never stopped by. </p>
<p>@ShannonPaul, thank you ma&#8217;am! <img src='http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My BS meter almost made me fall of the chair. I can&#8217;t believe an agency would pull this stunt&#8230;okay, well, I can. But still. </p>
<p>@MarcMeyer, mind altering chemicals or someone was spinning around in an office chair for a little too long. <img src='http://www.theharteofmarketing.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Glad you are trying to educate your co-workers, I hope they are listening. </p>
<p>@JamesHelms, thanks! I have heard the same thing. Some marketers know the buzz word, but don&#8217;t really know what it means. Surveys like Cones do not help. Again, thought they&#8217;d be &#8220;listening,&#8221; and perhaps respond, but no dice. </p>
<p>Cone needs to read the posts on when to fire your SM Consultant! Amber Naslund&#8217;s post (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3jp6s8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3jp6s8</a>) and Alex Hillman&#8217;s (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3lwele)" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3lwele)</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Helms</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Helms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article and great comments. Beth your &quot;echo chamber&quot; really hit home with me. The term &quot;Social Media&quot; is certainly not mainstream even within the marketing world. I&#039;ve had several discussions and a lot of blank expressions with people with way more experience than me when I mentioned social media.

I buy the 60% number when you look at what that might mean. Comments on a blog, video, or news article. Visiting a forum, or an online video site like YT...who knows what or how cone phrased the questions. They should have presented more details about the survey.

Again Beth, great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article and great comments. Beth your &#8220;echo chamber&#8221; really hit home with me. The term &#8220;Social Media&#8221; is certainly not mainstream even within the marketing world. I&#8217;ve had several discussions and a lot of blank expressions with people with way more experience than me when I mentioned social media.</p>
<p>I buy the 60% number when you look at what that might mean. Comments on a blog, video, or news article. Visiting a forum, or an online video site like YT&#8230;who knows what or how cone phrased the questions. They should have presented more details about the survey.</p>
<p>Again Beth, great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I walked out of my office to ask if anyone knew what social media was-iinformal survey of 9-zero response.

flash forward to last week. Somone asks, What&#039;s a widget? another co-worker answers with, &quot;its similar to a doo0-hicky. At which point I leapt out of my chair and so hold hold hold hold it....

and then explained.

Those numbers have to be post ingestion of mind altering chemicals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I walked out of my office to ask if anyone knew what social media was-iinformal survey of 9-zero response.</p>
<p>flash forward to last week. Somone asks, What&#8217;s a widget? another co-worker answers with, &#8220;its similar to a doo0-hicky. At which point I leapt out of my chair and so hold hold hold hold it&#8230;.</p>
<p>and then explained.</p>
<p>Those numbers have to be post ingestion of mind altering chemicals</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth, I am so glad that mine wasn&#039;t the only B.S. meter to go off when I heard those statistics. Thanks for doing a little digging and putting things in perspective. 

You Rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, I am so glad that mine wasn&#8217;t the only B.S. meter to go off when I heard those statistics. Thanks for doing a little digging and putting things in perspective. </p>
<p>You Rock!</p>
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